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mamajoanI remembered another thing I wanted to say about Eowyn and her big scene.
It seems pretty dumb for Eowyn to reveal herself by pulling off her helmet to let her hair loose. I know that's a classic "woman reveals herself" movie trope, but in a movie where half the men have long flowing locks too, it doesn't make any sense!!! Pulling off a helmet to let your long blond(e) hair flow freely into the artfully-positioned breeze could just as easily reveal you to be, for example, Legolas. Now just think how confusing that would be for Aragorn in the middle of the night. Ahem. ;)
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sydb42 says, it would have been better if we didn't know it was Eowyn till that moment. It would have worked better plotwise and been a bigger, more exciting revelation. OTOH, then we wouldn't have been able to see all those delightful "Eowyn and Merry ride through the battle screaming in terror and yet somehow manage to remain unscathed" scenes.
Of course, the other problem, as my mom pointed out mid-movie, is that for some reason the major characters rarely wear their helmets when riding into battle. Extras wear 'em, because they're interchangeable -- the helmet being the Tolkein equivalent of the red shirt -- but the main characters have to be unobscured so that we, the audience, can tell them apart. Except, of course, when their being unrecognizable is a plot point (cf Luke and Han in the stormtrooper suits). So in general the main characters don't wear helmets despite the obvious stupidity of same. Where's Samwise Gamgee, everyone's favorite mom, when we need him? "You're riding into battle without your helmet?? Well, don't come crying to me when you get your nose chopped off!" But I digress. ;)
I've been having a lot of fun reading the "trivia" sections of the IMDb listings for the LOTR movies. Lots of interesting tidbits there. I'm especially amused by the people who turned down roles -- e.g. Daniel Day-Lewis as Aragorn. Bet they're kicking themselves now! ;)
It seems pretty dumb for Eowyn to reveal herself by pulling off her helmet to let her hair loose. I know that's a classic "woman reveals herself" movie trope, but in a movie where half the men have long flowing locks too, it doesn't make any sense!!! Pulling off a helmet to let your long blond(e) hair flow freely into the artfully-positioned breeze could just as easily reveal you to be, for example, Legolas. Now just think how confusing that would be for Aragorn in the middle of the night. Ahem. ;)
Probably, as
sydb42 says, it would have been better if we didn't know it was Eowyn till that moment. It would have worked better plotwise and been a bigger, more exciting revelation. OTOH, then we wouldn't have been able to see all those delightful "Eowyn and Merry ride through the battle screaming in terror and yet somehow manage to remain unscathed" scenes.Of course, the other problem, as my mom pointed out mid-movie, is that for some reason the major characters rarely wear their helmets when riding into battle. Extras wear 'em, because they're interchangeable -- the helmet being the Tolkein equivalent of the red shirt -- but the main characters have to be unobscured so that we, the audience, can tell them apart. Except, of course, when their being unrecognizable is a plot point (cf Luke and Han in the stormtrooper suits). So in general the main characters don't wear helmets despite the obvious stupidity of same. Where's Samwise Gamgee, everyone's favorite mom, when we need him? "You're riding into battle without your helmet?? Well, don't come crying to me when you get your nose chopped off!" But I digress. ;)
I've been having a lot of fun reading the "trivia" sections of the IMDb listings for the LOTR movies. Lots of interesting tidbits there. I'm especially amused by the people who turned down roles -- e.g. Daniel Day-Lewis as Aragorn. Bet they're kicking themselves now! ;)
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Eowyn, even with long flowing locks and no helmet, rocks!
Date: 2003-12-29 01:53 pm (UTC)Re: Eowyn, even with long flowing locks and no helmet, rocks!
Date: 2003-12-29 06:29 pm (UTC)And umm, Merry had a much more prominent role in that scene, grumbles about Dom's cut scenes
Re: Eowyn, even with long flowing locks and no helmet, rocks!
Date: 2003-12-29 11:21 pm (UTC)Re: Eowyn, even with long flowing locks and no helmet, rocks!
Date: 2003-12-31 02:51 pm (UTC)I agree that the revealing-her-long-hair bit doesn't make a whole lot of sense even in the books, unless you also consider the lack of scruffy face hair, as another commenter has said.
Speaking of battles
Date: 2003-12-29 02:05 pm (UTC)http://www.canada.com/montreal/montrealgazette/story.asp?id=7530006A-C103-4E13-9A55-F6EFCC111ACC
As far as I can tell, this is a true story. Very funny. :)
Re: Speaking of battles
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